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	<title>Comments on: WinDbg and NTCrash2</title>
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		<title>By: DjLizard</title>
		<link>http://DjLizard.net/2005/11/30/106/comment-page-1/#comment-313</link>
		<dc:creator>DjLizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh, I forgot to reply here.  Sorry :)

No, nothing&#039;s wrong at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh, I forgot to reply here.  Sorry :)</p>
<p>No, nothing&#039;s wrong at all.</p>
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		<title>By: YC</title>
		<link>http://DjLizard.net/2005/11/30/106/comment-page-1/#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator>YC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 05:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah ok, thanks! Yup I&#039;ve read through both the SysInternals pages =). Anyway, as I said, if it hangs at 0xfd, does it mean there&#039;s something wrong as well? I always end up using Ctrl+C to  terminate the program, because it&#039;s at 0xfd after an hour or so =(.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah ok, thanks! Yup I&#039;ve read through both the SysInternals pages =). Anyway, as I said, if it hangs at 0xfd, does it mean there&#039;s something wrong as well? I always end up using Ctrl+C to  terminate the program, because it&#039;s at 0xfd after an hour or so =(.</p>
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		<title>By: DjLizard</title>
		<link>http://DjLizard.net/2005/11/30/106/comment-page-1/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>DjLizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 02:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NTCrash2 is for testing system services and kernel for tolerance against random garbage being thrown at them.  There&#039;s really nothing wrong with your computer, except for those couple of programs that don&#039;t handle NTCrash2 properly, and that is the fault of the developers.  Other than NTCrash2 crashing them, there is nothing wrong with those programs (except that they don&#039;t handle garbage at all).

It&#039;s up to the developers of those programs to fix their applications, or not.  You basically don&#039;t need to do anything except continue to upgrade your applications as new versions come out.  Daemon Tools is one example of an application that fixed this problem in their newest release.

NTCrash and NTCrash2 are mentioned &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sysinternals.com/information/nativeapi.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/11/sonys-rootkit-first-4-internet.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and that&#039;s about it.  Mark Russinovich and Microsoft use tools such as NTCrash(2) to test stability in applications, services, and APIs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NTCrash2 is for testing system services and kernel for tolerance against random garbage being thrown at them.  There&#039;s really nothing wrong with your computer, except for those couple of programs that don&#039;t handle NTCrash2 properly, and that is the fault of the developers.  Other than NTCrash2 crashing them, there is nothing wrong with those programs (except that they don&#039;t handle garbage at all).</p>
<p>It&#039;s up to the developers of those programs to fix their applications, or not.  You basically don&#039;t need to do anything except continue to upgrade your applications as new versions come out.  Daemon Tools is one example of an application that fixed this problem in their newest release.</p>
<p>NTCrash and NTCrash2 are mentioned <a href="http://www.sysinternals.com/information/nativeapi.html" class="extlink">here</a> and <a href="http://www.sysinternals.com/blog/2005/11/sonys-rootkit-first-4-internet.html" class="extlink">here</a> and that&#039;s about it.  Mark Russinovich and Microsoft use tools such as NTCrash(2) to test stability in applications, services, and APIs.</p>
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		<title>By: YC</title>
		<link>http://DjLizard.net/2005/11/30/106/comment-page-1/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>YC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so how do I find out what&#039;s causing the problem? Also, mine seems to stop at 0xfd. It just stops there =(. Once again, thanks! By the way, any good site that explains how NTCRASH2 works? I&#039;ve searched but found nothing :(.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so how do I find out what&#039;s causing the problem? Also, mine seems to stop at 0xfd. It just stops there =(. Once again, thanks! By the way, any good site that explains how NTCRASH2 works? I&#039;ve searched but found nothing :(.</p>
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		<title>By: DjLizard</title>
		<link>http://DjLizard.net/2005/11/30/106/comment-page-1/#comment-237</link>
		<dc:creator>DjLizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, that&#039;s normal for NTCrash2 at that point in the attack.  There are some Windows services that respond in that manner (which is at least better than crashing!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, that&#039;s normal for NTCrash2 at that point in the attack.  There are some Windows services that respond in that manner (which is at least better than crashing!)</p>
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		<title>By: YC</title>
		<link>http://DjLizard.net/2005/11/30/106/comment-page-1/#comment-236</link>
		<dc:creator>YC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the double post. Anyway, I clicked on Retry a lot of times, and the error finally disappeared and NTCRASH went on. =\</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the double post. Anyway, I clicked on Retry a lot of times, and the error finally disappeared and NTCRASH went on. =\</p>
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		<title>By: YC</title>
		<link>http://DjLizard.net/2005/11/30/106/comment-page-1/#comment-235</link>
		<dc:creator>YC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi DjLizard, it is indeed SpySweeper. Alcohol 120% also caused errors. Thanks for the help! I&#039;ve uninstalled them both, and no more BSODS. However, NTCRASH2.EXE comes up with a popup. &quot;Unknown Hard Error&quot;. I can either abort, retry or ignore. The title for the popup changes each time I click on either of the 3 options, from &quot;NTCRASH2.EXE - Success&quot; to &quot;NTCRASH2.EXE - System Warning&quot;. Is this normal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi DjLizard, it is indeed SpySweeper. Alcohol 120% also caused errors. Thanks for the help! I&#039;ve uninstalled them both, and no more BSODS. However, NTCRASH2.EXE comes up with a popup. &#034;Unknown Hard Error&#034;. I can either abort, retry or ignore. The title for the popup changes each time I click on either of the 3 options, from &#034;NTCRASH2.EXE &#8211; Success&#034; to &#034;NTCRASH2.EXE &#8211; System Warning&#034;. Is this normal?</p>
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		<title>By: DjLizard</title>
		<link>http://DjLizard.net/2005/11/30/106/comment-page-1/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>DjLizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 04:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m pretty sure that belongs to SpySweeper.

If you&#039;re using the latest version, then they have some fixin&#039; to do, because no program should crash when NTCrash2 is running.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m pretty sure that belongs to SpySweeper.</p>
<p>If you&#039;re using the latest version, then they have some fixin&#039; to do, because no program should crash when NTCrash2 is running.</p>
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		<title>By: YC</title>
		<link>http://DjLizard.net/2005/11/30/106/comment-page-1/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>YC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2005 04:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I&#039;ve tried NTCrash2, and it keeps on crashing my system with a 0x0000008E SSI.sys error. I&#039;ve done a search and I can&#039;t find any information on SSI.sys. Do you&#039;ve any idea what it is? Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#039;ve tried NTCrash2, and it keeps on crashing my system with a 0x0000008E SSI.sys error. I&#039;ve done a search and I can&#039;t find any information on SSI.sys. Do you&#039;ve any idea what it is? Thanks!</p>
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